Sky
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whats the angle on alverez?
UFN 90 - RDA vs Alvarez
- Thread starter ezflyer
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Sky
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haha.. is that a guess? rda has a shaky chin?
TheCalculator
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Alvarez has a high fight iq. Great coaches with smart game plan. He's a grinder. Good grappler. And if they bang, he could catch RDA. RDA was out of training until just a few weeks ago because of his foot. Got to assume that he dropped 5% off of his peak. Value is on Alvarez
JoshKnows46
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I believe rda has a pretty damn good chin, wouldn't say anywhere close to shaky. I like rdas cardio to win out and get him a finish in the 4th or 5th round after a fairly competive first 3 rounds. Alverez is tough to finish, but seemed to slow down a bit in the last couple, and with the pressure rda puts on, the leg kicks, takedowns, takedown attempts, don't expect alverez to be going off more than heart in the championship rounds, and rda also has that in spades. Alverez needs to take all of the first 3 rounds, to win a dec, dont give alverez ko much of a chance but it's possible.
TheCalculator
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I'm also on RDA R4/R5. And I really like the over 3.5 at +120. Both super tough guys. I see this fight going the distance more often than not.
JoshKnows46
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That's what I was thinking, of just playing the 4th, 5th and rda dec. Not laying that much juice, still hoping for late alverez action to come in. Also like the over, but I might just do over 3 rounds parlayed with jones DC over 2 or 3 rds.
ezflyer
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i like that, rda 4/5.. BM has better prices than 5d for this. (you can do both guys +800 and both guys +1300.. or +1800 rda rd 5)
ezflyer
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that's where i am, too.. o3.0 (close enough) and now both guys 4/5
PSUMike
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Pretty much agree with this. Like I said before, Alvarez needs to stay upright and at boxing range to win this. At distance, RDA will eat him up with kicks. In the clinch, he runs the risk of getting taken down or kneed up. Odds are pretty accurate imo. Definitely think a late finish for RDA is possible. Alvarez had nothing left in the 3rd against Cerrone IIRC.
PSUMike
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Total guess. I'm not 100% of RDA's chin being that stout at this point though. The only other big hitter he fought put him away. He's fought a bunch of guys with a lot of TKO wins but they are more swarm fighters than one-punch guys (Cerrone, Njokani, Pettis, etc.). I think Alvarez punches harder than any of them.
ezflyer
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alvarez is my SINGLE biggest moneymaker in all of MMA over the past couple years, won over 10u on both his melendez and pettis fights... but yea. he was pretty f'ing gassed at the end of both of them (and slowed down after rd 1 vs cowboy like you said)... liking this 4/5 RDA idea.
Alvarez was ready to GO at the end of that Cowboy fight btw. Like, he would have gotten finished in the fourth no doubt in my mind.
ezflyer
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fight pass prelims:
luque-herrera
herrera looks alright. not bad. about the same as first fight i think?
luque looks good.. same as usual
they are the same size
vieira-beltran
vieira looks very solid. same as last fight.
beltran looks ok.
beltran prolly 2" taller.
burns-sajewski
sajewski still looks pretty mediocre.
burns looks great. much more solid.
burns actually 1" taller.
arantes-sanders
sanders is a goddamned tank. no surprises here but freakin jacked.
arantes looks pretty ripped.. maybe the best he's ever looked?
arantes is 2" taller (shoes)
munhoz-doane
munhoz looks super solid.
doane looks pretty ripped.
they are the same size
lopes-birchak
lopes looks decent enough. same as finale i think.
birchak looks good. status quo.
birchak is 2" taller
makdessi-baghdad
baghdad looks good. rangey 155'er.
makdessi pretty thick.. but i guess normal? looks a lil more muscled maybe?
baghdad is 3-4" taller
mina-pyle
mina looks solid.. maybe a lil trimmer than last time? (hard to tell)
pyle looks ok. same as he has the last several fights. tad soft etc.
pyle prolly 1" taller (shoes for mina)
fight pass main:
duffy-clarke
clarke looks ok. just ok. maybe a little soft.
duffy looks great. same as always
duffy maybe 1" taller
muhammad-jouban
muhammad looks outstanding, as usual. no apparent lack of nourishment??
jouban also looks great.
jouban is 1" taller
nelson-lewis
lewis 265.5. big and pretty fat. same as usual.
nelson 263, shirt on.
lewis looks a couple inches bigger. bigger wingspan/etc maybe?
alvarez-RDA
alvarez looks pretty awesome.
RDA looks great, don't get me wrong, but i think he looks noticably smaller than the last couple fights... - to reiterate, he still looks excellent.
they're the same size
note: i'm not sure which ones are considered main card / prelims, for the record. i might've missed it and/or it's unclear.
note#2: botox in your 20's is a bad look, new ring girl
just adding a bit to muhammad based on weighins. ramadan concerns are gone for me. he looks fuckin awesome. we'll see.
luque-herrera
herrera looks alright. not bad. about the same as first fight i think?
luque looks good.. same as usual
they are the same size
vieira-beltran
vieira looks very solid. same as last fight.
beltran looks ok.
beltran prolly 2" taller.
burns-sajewski
sajewski still looks pretty mediocre.
burns looks great. much more solid.
burns actually 1" taller.
arantes-sanders
sanders is a goddamned tank. no surprises here but freakin jacked.
arantes looks pretty ripped.. maybe the best he's ever looked?
arantes is 2" taller (shoes)
munhoz-doane
munhoz looks super solid.
doane looks pretty ripped.
they are the same size
lopes-birchak
lopes looks decent enough. same as finale i think.
birchak looks good. status quo.
birchak is 2" taller
makdessi-baghdad
baghdad looks good. rangey 155'er.
makdessi pretty thick.. but i guess normal? looks a lil more muscled maybe?
baghdad is 3-4" taller
mina-pyle
mina looks solid.. maybe a lil trimmer than last time? (hard to tell)
pyle looks ok. same as he has the last several fights. tad soft etc.
pyle prolly 1" taller (shoes for mina)
fight pass main:
duffy-clarke
clarke looks ok. just ok. maybe a little soft.
duffy looks great. same as always
duffy maybe 1" taller
muhammad-jouban
muhammad looks outstanding, as usual. no apparent lack of nourishment??
jouban also looks great.
jouban is 1" taller
nelson-lewis
lewis 265.5. big and pretty fat. same as usual.
nelson 263, shirt on.
lewis looks a couple inches bigger. bigger wingspan/etc maybe?
alvarez-RDA
alvarez looks pretty awesome.
RDA looks great, don't get me wrong, but i think he looks noticably smaller than the last couple fights... - to reiterate, he still looks excellent.
they're the same size
note: i'm not sure which ones are considered main card / prelims, for the record. i might've missed it and/or it's unclear.
note#2: botox in your 20's is a bad look, new ring girl
just adding a bit to muhammad based on weighins. ramadan concerns are gone for me. he looks fuckin awesome. we'll see.
TheCalculator
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Felipe Arantes: VERY rough weight cut. He was still suffering hours after starting to rehydrate.
Mitch Clarke looks like he was hurting as well.
Mitch Clarke looks like he was hurting as well.
TheCalculator
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The muscle mass doesn't lie.
TheCalculator
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The guy is jacked. He's on the gear.