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ezflyer
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Yep fuckin cakewalk
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Rizin 5 Net: +140
kawajiri -160: 160.20 for 100
ishii -265: 106 for 40
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god, should've bet more on ishii, was a freakin lock. herring has nothing left at this point...
wow @ cruickshank getting KTFO, never saw that coming.
kawajiri-birchak was a lot of fun. birchak took a *beating.* amazing scramble in first minute of rd 2.
between this little win and the solid bellator, i got back most of what i lost on the ufc this weekend. i'll take it, i guess.
kawajiri -160: 160.20 for 100
ishii -265: 106 for 40
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god, should've bet more on ishii, was a freakin lock. herring has nothing left at this point...
wow @ cruickshank getting KTFO, never saw that coming.
kawajiri-birchak was a lot of fun. birchak took a *beating.* amazing scramble in first minute of rd 2.
between this little win and the solid bellator, i got back most of what i lost on the ufc this weekend. i'll take it, i guess.
Pretty fun card. I avoided spoilers and actually paid for it on Fite.tv this afternoon. Should have went full tilt on Kawajiri and Ishii.
Rizin FF 5 Results
Tatsuya Kawajiri (-103) vs Anthony Birchak ~$110.40 for ~$107.18= ~$107.18
Satoshi Ishii -(260) vs Heath Herring $260.00 for $100.00= $100.00
Kizaemon Saiga (+370) vs Seiichiro Ito ~$28.80 for ~$106.56= -~$28.80
Parlay:
Daron Cruickshank (-255) vs Yusuke Yachi + Tenshin Nasukawa (-556) vs Francesco Ghigliotti + Rena Kubota (-556) vs Dora Perjes + Kyoji Horiguchi (-455) vs Yuki Motoya ~$90.00 for ~$122.75= -~$90.00
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Total Profit= $88.38
Rizin FF 5 Results
Tatsuya Kawajiri (-103) vs Anthony Birchak ~$110.40 for ~$107.18= ~$107.18
Satoshi Ishii -(260) vs Heath Herring $260.00 for $100.00= $100.00
Kizaemon Saiga (+370) vs Seiichiro Ito ~$28.80 for ~$106.56= -~$28.80
Parlay:
Daron Cruickshank (-255) vs Yusuke Yachi + Tenshin Nasukawa (-556) vs Francesco Ghigliotti + Rena Kubota (-556) vs Dora Perjes + Kyoji Horiguchi (-455) vs Yuki Motoya ~$90.00 for ~$122.75= -~$90.00
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Total Profit= $88.38
PSUMike
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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/4/1...ight-fixing-from-ufc-event-in-south-korea-mma
Bang started at -180 and eventually got as high as +325.
Kuntz opened at +140 and closed at -475.
That kind of line movement is...well, not normal. Curious to see what comes of this.
Multiple reports are surfacing in Korea, citing an ongoing investigation regarding fight fixing allegations from the UFC’s 2015 event in Seoul. According to these mainstream media outlets in the country, a Korean fighter, whose identity they kept hidden, agreed to throw a bout, but ended up winning a decision against an American opponent.
The reports state that “Fighter A” agreed to take a dive for 100 million Won (roughly $88,000), and also put down a bet of 50 million Won (roughly $44,000) on the opponent.
After the betting odds changed drastically in just a short amount of time, it was stated that on the day of the fight, UFC officials constantly questioned the fighter about it, and the possibility of nefarious activity. The fighter pretended to be oblivious to it all, but many have been made aware of the money being thrown in on their contest. Fearing repercussions, Fighter A was said to have then decided to compete and fight normally.
Fighter A ended up still winning the contest, then was said to have received numerous threats and feared for his safety after. This is when the fighter reportedly contacted the police and admitted to agreeing to throw the fight.
This has prompted an investigation, with Korean officials looking to track down everyone involved in the matter.
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While the original reports hid the fighter’s identity, several other large and respected outlets discussed the possibility of it being Tae Hyun Bang, without outright naming him.
They’ve pointed out that while there was a handful of Korean fighters on the card, Bang was the only male fighter who won by decision, and the rest won by TKO. Other sources also cite an unnamed ‘34-year-old’ local fighter involved in a fight fixing scandal, with again only Bang fitting the age description on the card.
It is also interesting to note that multiple other outlets have used images of Bang that have been censored, while some TV networks in Korea also aired a blurred out, but still recognizable MMA gym in Korean Top Team where he trains.
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A Korean outlet mentioned that “Fighter A” wasn’t happy when the decision was announced, and used a blurred version of this screengrab of Tae Hyun Bang from the event.
In the November 2015 card in Seoul, South Korea, Leo Kuntz started out as a slight underdog, and suddenly ballooned up to become a massive favorite over Bang. Money flowed heavily against the Korean and the switch happened in just a 1-2 hour span, which is pretty much unheard of, especially for a relatively low-profile preliminary UFC bout.
During their contest, Bang hurt Kuntz and scored a knockdown on the opening round, with the next two stanzas ending up much closer. Judges scored it 28-29, 29-28, and 29-28, awarding the Korean with the split decision victory.
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Bang started at -180 and eventually got as high as +325.
Kuntz opened at +140 and closed at -475.
That kind of line movement is...well, not normal. Curious to see what comes of this.
PSUMike
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But going from +140 to -475 without injury rumors? That's pretty extreme. Idk, I think there may be something to it.
there was a lot of talk at the time about the strange movement and the possibility of the fight being fixed.
ez, generally the crazy movements are a big favorite becoming a massive favorite. you don't see underdogs becoming massive favorites.
ez, generally the crazy movements are a big favorite becoming a massive favorite. you don't see underdogs becoming massive favorites.
also, not sure how you can say its a whole lot of nothing when the article states bang admitted to being paid off!
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I specifically recall there being a rumor that Bang was injured at the time and that was what was supposedly driving the wild line movement. I ended up betting Bang heavy on the value and winning big. Like with most of these conspiracy theories I'm a little unclear as to how it would have worked in practicality and it makes me skeptical. If someone is trying to fix a fight the obvious best way to make a lot of money is to get a heavy favorite to take a dive, keep it quiet with no reports of injuries or other problems and bet large on the big underdog. How would anyone have made any real money with Bang starting as a moderate favorite and peaking as a huge underdog?
if the outcome is pre-determined, then it doesnt really matter what the odds are. apparently the korean mobsters bet $2M on kuntz!
I guess they could have bet Kuntz at the +140 opener figuring they had Bang taking a dive and made 2.8 million profit if any of this is even true. Of course, then one has to wonder exactly where they could even get a whopping two million dollars in bets down on a minor UFC bout. Are there local bookies in Korea that take this kind of action? Spreading some action around on various online sportsbooks in Asia? Still seems like a stretch to me.
Maybe I'm just a skeptic at heart, but just how popular is the UFC in South Korea compared to soccer, video gaming or other far more popular pastimes? I would be surprised if as much as two million U.S. dollars was bet in total with every local bookie in the entire country of South Korea on every UFC fight on a given week's card, never mind that much on one side of one particular minor UFC fight, which would stand out like a sore thumb and set off massive red flags everywhere. Not to mention if Bang pulled the ultimate screw job after agreeing to take a dive and won the fight costing local gangsters millions of dollars, why is he still breathing?
Much easier to fix a single player event than a team sport.
But yea, it probably wasn't the best idea since it did set off red flags. According to the article, ufc believed something was up because of the line movement. They started asking questions to bang and apparently it made him nervous, which is why he didn't take a dive.
The article also says he started getting death threats, which is why he went to police and admitted being paid off.
But yea, it probably wasn't the best idea since it did set off red flags. According to the article, ufc believed something was up because of the line movement. They started asking questions to bang and apparently it made him nervous, which is why he didn't take a dive.
The article also says he started getting death threats, which is why he went to police and admitted being paid off.